Comments on: Enough of the Facebook Feeding Frenzy! http://www.cogniview.com/convert-pdf-to-excel/post/enough-of-the-facebook-feeding-frenzy/ Excel(lent) Stuff Sat, 13 Mar 2010 05:57:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: El retorno del bloguero » los sueños de la razón http://www.cogniview.com/convert-pdf-to-excel/post/enough-of-the-facebook-feeding-frenzy/comment-page-1/#comment-31195 El retorno del bloguero » los sueños de la razón Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:53:10 +0000 http://www.cogniview.com/convert-pdf-to-excel/post/enough-of-the-facebook-feeding-frenzy/#comment-31195 [...] the moment the horror that is Beacon, many people have been abandoning the service because it just isn’t useful. Worse than that, it is an increasingly time-wasting [...] [...] the moment the horror that is Beacon, many people have been abandoning the service because it just isn’t useful. Worse than that, it is an increasingly time-wasting [...]

]]> By: WordPress the New Facebook? : Codswallop http://www.cogniview.com/convert-pdf-to-excel/post/enough-of-the-facebook-feeding-frenzy/comment-page-1/#comment-31159 WordPress the New Facebook? : Codswallop Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:53:32 +0000 http://www.cogniview.com/convert-pdf-to-excel/post/enough-of-the-facebook-feeding-frenzy/#comment-31159 [...] the moment the horror that is Beacon, many people have been abandoning the service because it just isn’t useful. Worse than that, it is an increasingly time-wasting [...] [...] the moment the horror that is Beacon, many people have been abandoning the service because it just isn’t useful. Worse than that, it is an increasingly time-wasting [...]

]]> By: El semanal de anotaciones (otoño 07, 6º domingo) » los sueños de la razón http://www.cogniview.com/convert-pdf-to-excel/post/enough-of-the-facebook-feeding-frenzy/comment-page-1/#comment-25070 El semanal de anotaciones (otoño 07, 6º domingo) » los sueños de la razón Sun, 28 Oct 2007 14:11:27 +0000 http://www.cogniview.com/convert-pdf-to-excel/post/enough-of-the-facebook-feeding-frenzy/#comment-25070 [...] se haga de Facebook (tengo una relación ambivalente con ese entorno). Esta vez es Codswallop en su Enough of the Facebook Feeding Frenzy: “Me huele a burbuja ¿No es una señal clara el que la gente invierta sólo porque otros [...] [...] se haga de Facebook (tengo una relación ambivalente con ese entorno). Esta vez es Codswallop en su Enough of the Facebook Feeding Frenzy: “Me huele a burbuja ¿No es una señal clara el que la gente invierta sólo porque otros [...]

]]> By: Tomas Forsman http://www.cogniview.com/convert-pdf-to-excel/post/enough-of-the-facebook-feeding-frenzy/comment-page-1/#comment-24751 Tomas Forsman Thu, 25 Oct 2007 20:08:24 +0000 http://www.cogniview.com/convert-pdf-to-excel/post/enough-of-the-facebook-feeding-frenzy/#comment-24751 Chris: Linden Lab and IBM recently announced that they are working towards an open standard where you can jump between virtual worlds using the same economy and the same avatar/account. We won't have a 3D internet until people are able to use the world that you are hosting on your own server with a common client, no matter what server side 3D platform you choose to use. Chris:
Linden Lab and IBM recently announced that they are working towards an open standard where you can jump between virtual worlds using the same economy and the same avatar/account. We won’t have a 3D internet until people are able to use the world that you are hosting on your own server with a common client, no matter what server side 3D platform you choose to use.

]]> By: Tomas Forsman http://www.cogniview.com/convert-pdf-to-excel/post/enough-of-the-facebook-feeding-frenzy/comment-page-1/#comment-24750 Tomas Forsman Thu, 25 Oct 2007 20:05:43 +0000 http://www.cogniview.com/convert-pdf-to-excel/post/enough-of-the-facebook-feeding-frenzy/#comment-24750 Yoav: Indeed, right now Microsoft is working hard to catch up to Google on the search market. Why? Because they want the revenue of advertisement! Bigger picture, always. Yoav:
Indeed, right now Microsoft is working hard to catch up to Google on the search market. Why? Because they want the revenue of advertisement!

Bigger picture, always.

]]> By: Yoav Ezer http://www.cogniview.com/convert-pdf-to-excel/post/enough-of-the-facebook-feeding-frenzy/comment-page-1/#comment-24745 Yoav Ezer Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:19:29 +0000 http://www.cogniview.com/convert-pdf-to-excel/post/enough-of-the-facebook-feeding-frenzy/#comment-24745 Hey Chris, Think about this: Facebook will configure their robots.txt to let the Microsoft agent in but keep the Google bot out. Ooouch! Hey Chris,

Think about this: Facebook will configure their robots.txt to let the Microsoft agent in but keep the Google bot out.

Ooouch!

]]> By: Chris Garrett http://www.cogniview.com/convert-pdf-to-excel/post/enough-of-the-facebook-feeding-frenzy/comment-page-1/#comment-24739 Chris Garrett Thu, 25 Oct 2007 18:15:26 +0000 http://www.cogniview.com/convert-pdf-to-excel/post/enough-of-the-facebook-feeding-frenzy/#comment-24739 @Rick - I am an new apple fan but some of the cheer leading nearly put me off ;) @Tomas - I am hoping there will be an open source second life and an open social network. Second life could be so much better if the tools and the environment were public, free and open I think. Facebook to a lesser extent but I am concerned that while it is quite benign now that might not always be the case. @Adam - Large scale grabbing of private data + hype :) @Rick – I am an new apple fan but some of the cheer leading nearly put me off ;)

@Tomas – I am hoping there will be an open source second life and an open social network. Second life could be so much better if the tools and the environment were public, free and open I think. Facebook to a lesser extent but I am concerned that while it is quite benign now that might not always be the case.

@Adam – Large scale grabbing of private data + hype :)

]]> By: Adam Snider http://www.cogniview.com/convert-pdf-to-excel/post/enough-of-the-facebook-feeding-frenzy/comment-page-1/#comment-24725 Adam Snider Thu, 25 Oct 2007 16:01:34 +0000 http://www.cogniview.com/convert-pdf-to-excel/post/enough-of-the-facebook-feeding-frenzy/#comment-24725 While I enjoy Facebook, I definitely agree that it's highly over-valued. I mean, Microsoft's recent investment ($240 million for a measly 1.6% of the company) gives Facebook a valuation of $15 billion. I fail to see how Facebook can possibly be worth $15 billion. It seems ridiculously over-valued, and I have no idea what business plan can justify that sort of valuation. While I enjoy Facebook, I definitely agree that it’s highly over-valued.

I mean, Microsoft’s recent investment ($240 million for a measly 1.6% of the company) gives Facebook a valuation of $15 billion. I fail to see how Facebook can possibly be worth $15 billion.

It seems ridiculously over-valued, and I have no idea what business plan can justify that sort of valuation.

]]> By: Tomas Forsman http://www.cogniview.com/convert-pdf-to-excel/post/enough-of-the-facebook-feeding-frenzy/comment-page-1/#comment-24723 Tomas Forsman Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:58:15 +0000 http://www.cogniview.com/convert-pdf-to-excel/post/enough-of-the-facebook-feeding-frenzy/#comment-24723 I forgot to mention one important point on Facebook. Facebook represent a need that we'll see becoming more and more fullfilled by companies in the future. We don't want internet to be a thousand different things, we want everything to connect to eachother. Facebook, Twitter, your blog, my blog, msn, our mobile phones, our browsers, ip voice, 3D worlds...we want to jump seamlessly between them. Facebook has taken a small step to fullfill that need, or want, by interacting with as many other webbapplications as possible. I forgot to mention one important point on Facebook.

Facebook represent a need that we’ll see becoming more and more fullfilled by companies in the future. We don’t want internet to be a thousand different things, we want everything to connect to eachother. Facebook, Twitter, your blog, my blog, msn, our mobile phones, our browsers, ip voice, 3D worlds…we want to jump seamlessly between them.

Facebook has taken a small step to fullfill that need, or want, by interacting with as many other webbapplications as possible.

]]> By: Tomas Forsman http://www.cogniview.com/convert-pdf-to-excel/post/enough-of-the-facebook-feeding-frenzy/comment-page-1/#comment-24722 Tomas Forsman Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:54:17 +0000 http://www.cogniview.com/convert-pdf-to-excel/post/enough-of-the-facebook-feeding-frenzy/#comment-24722 Chris, I agree that to many companies build castles out of nothing when they enter these "new" platforms. When I lecture about Second Life I often take up IBM as an example of success and failure in Second Life. They spent 10 million dollars at an early stage on their precens in SL. For them it has payed off. They have recieved a lot of attention for what they have done in there and they are the company closest to LindenLab. And here comes one of my favourite words ;) but they could have done so much more with that money. I am head of a big venture in Second Life in sweden based on projects, not company money. We've spent somewhere around 25000 dollars and we have created so much that contributes somehow to the wellbeing of others. We have helped schools by exploring how education in Second Life works. We have brought culture from the countryside to the masses by helping singers reach out through the 3D platform and we have held discussions on topics ranging from equality to autism. I would say that when it comes to human worth we've done a great deal more then IBM with far less money...in Second Life that is. Here comes the second... but we wouldn't have done any of this if IBM hadn't spent $10 000 000 and if the Swedish Institute hadn't opened the worlds first virtual embassy in Second Life and if General Motors hadn't released a preview of a car in Second Life before launching it in real life. The media wouldn't have cared about Second Life if Big Company hadn't put the money in there, if that asian guy hadn't become a millionaire in there. Nobody cares about the good stuff but the good stuff can ride the wave of a hype as well ;) This post didn't have a very clear red thread but I guess my point is that if the platform is good the hype and money put in there can be used for good purpouses. My view of Second Life is that it's the predessessor of a 3D internet and the more we hype it the faster we'll get to the next stage...and that's where things get interesting. I think I've taken up enough of space here now ;) Try out Orkut and let us know what you think...it's the most used part of the google network after all =) Chris, I agree that to many companies build castles out of nothing when they enter these “new” platforms. When I lecture about Second Life I often take up IBM as an example of success and failure in Second Life. They spent 10 million dollars at an early stage on their precens in SL. For them it has payed off. They have recieved a lot of attention for what they have done in there and they are the company closest to LindenLab. And here comes one of my favourite words ;)

but

they could have done so much more with that money. I am head of a big venture in Second Life in sweden based on projects, not company money. We’ve spent somewhere around 25000 dollars and we have created so much that contributes somehow to the wellbeing of others. We have helped schools by exploring how education in Second Life works. We have brought culture from the countryside to the masses by helping singers reach out through the 3D platform and we have held discussions on topics ranging from equality to autism.

I would say that when it comes to human worth we’ve done a great deal more then IBM with far less money…in Second Life that is. Here comes the second…

but

we wouldn’t have done any of this if IBM hadn’t spent $10 000 000 and if the Swedish Institute hadn’t opened the worlds first virtual embassy in Second Life and if General Motors hadn’t released a preview of a car in Second Life before launching it in real life. The media wouldn’t have cared about Second Life if Big Company hadn’t put the money in there, if that asian guy hadn’t become a millionaire in there. Nobody cares about the good stuff but the good stuff can ride the wave of a hype as well ;)

This post didn’t have a very clear red thread but I guess my point is that if the platform is good the hype and money put in there can be used for good purpouses. My view of Second Life is that it’s the predessessor of a 3D internet and the more we hype it the faster we’ll get to the next stage…and that’s where things get interesting.

I think I’ve taken up enough of space here now ;) Try out Orkut and let us know what you think…it’s the most used part of the google network after all =)

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